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Gilneas Time Capsule

August 9, 2011 by kamaliaetalia

The first time I played through Kezan/the Lost Isles, I found two places that I thought I might want to come back to at will. After a little bit of fiddling around with some throwaway toons to establish the exact quest sequence boundaries of the zone phasing, I suspended two alts in a Goblin Time Capsule. The first time I played through Gilneas, nothing really stuck out to me as spot I’d want to preserve. Weren’t the Ruins of Gilneas available for all to explore? After I’d played all the way through Gilneas a couple more times (with characters who are no longer Worgen; WTB tailored top hats), though, I realized that the one region of Gilneas that you can’t go back to was the place I was most often thinking I might want to revisit. The town of Duskhaven falls off the map in the earthquakes that accompany the Shattering and is underwater in the Ruins of Gilneas.

Karlotta, therefore, lives in Duskhaven.

You’ll be about level 5 when you first arrive in Duskhaven — level 6 or 7 if you did a lot of grinding of Bloodfang Worgen in Gilneas City — but there isn’t much of anything to do. No herbs, no mines, and the Forsaken soldiers down by the boats are so close to each other that they’re tricky to single-pull. The herbs and mines don’t phase in until you complete Invasion and the Forsaken attack begins in earnest. I continued down the quest chain to the Allen Farmstead and completed Unleash the Beast and Two by Sea (for the “Flying” Worgen Robes, lol), but kept Save the Children! in my log so that I could keep telling the little brats to go back in the house where it’s safe. Having done all these things, and having farmed the Forsaken invaders for linen to make her tailored robe, Karlotta is now level 8. The zone phases again a couple of quests later, after Leader of the Pack, when the Hammond Farmstead falls into the sea.

In Duskhaven, I have access to all of its houses — each of them furnished in a unique arrangement — and to the outlying areas of the Hammond/Allen Farmsteads, Crowley Orchard, Hayward Fishery, and Grandma Wahl’s cottage. The latter three locations are furnished, but their inhabitants are mysteriously absent. (They don’t appear until you turn in Evacuation… after the earthquakes that destroy the Hammond Farmstead.) There’s no way to get around the gates blocking the road leading up to Greymane Manor, though, and, on the other end of the road, the Queen’s Gate never opens, even in the Ruins of Gilneas. I haven’t tried swimming around the coast from the Hayward Fishery, but I imagine that I’d probably hit an invisible wall somewhere if I tried it. In the Ruins of Gilneas, the sunken houses of Duskhaven are all closed up, and, except for the Hayward Fishery, the surrounding areas are completely gone.

One of the spots in Duskhaven that I was saddest about not being able to come back to is this pretty little rose arbor out by Grandma Wahl’s cottage.

I’m still trying to decide whether Kymberlea got married at the Cathedral in Gilneas City, or out in the countryside at a rose arbor like this one.

Then I went flying around western Lordaeron with Kiraleia, in that burst of “yay, flying!” after she hit level 60. First, I visited the faerie ring in the Whispering Forest of Tirisfal Glades. Then I went down through Silverpine into the Ruins of Gilneas and, out of curiosity, flew up to the top of the mountain in the far western point of the map, directly north of Tempest’s Reach, just to see what was there.

Lo and behold, there was an expanded version of the rose arbor!



The sun never seems to shine in Gilneas (making me wonder how they managed to grow enough produce to keep themselves alive), but if you’re wanting a wild, moody, atmospheric place for a wedding, a romantic confrontation (whether positive or negative in outcome), or even a meeting of a clandestine society, this might be just the place you’re looking for.

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  1. on August 9, 2011 at 6:37 pm ironyca

    Beautiful location you’ve found there! I’ve not done much worgen stuff yet, so thanks for pointing this one out.


  2. on August 9, 2011 at 11:50 pm Rades (@_Rades)

    That’s a very cool idea, saving a character in a certain phase! There are definitely moments I’d love to preserve – I still have the final quest in Stonetalon finished but not handed in, because I want to always return and abandon/rewatch that awesome scene whenever I want.

    Tell me something – is Karlotta preserved in time when you can go to Lorna Crowley’s house? I remember there is a quest to go visit her, but I don’t remember where exactly in the phasing it is. If it is, take a loot at how many shoes she has. πŸ™‚


    • on August 10, 2011 at 7:43 am kamaliaetalia

      Lorna’s house and all its furnishings are here, but Lorna herself is not. Wow, she *does* have a lot of pairs of boots!


      • on August 10, 2011 at 1:47 pm Rades (@_Rades)

        Yeah, I always poke around and explore to take screenshots, and I was amused at how many boots she had. Funny little detail! πŸ˜€


  3. on August 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm Nightwill

    That’s a great find, I will certainly be visiting the place in game when I get a chance!


  4. on August 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm WoW havens – the secret, phased town of Duskhaven in Gilneas

    […] to me that Kamalia of Kamalia et Alia has preserved one of the most attractive Gilnean towns for one of her alts for all eternity: The sun never seems to shine in Gilneas (making me wonder how they managed to grow enough produce […]


  5. on August 10, 2011 at 4:34 pm Jamin

    As the first zone I witnessed when re-subscribing at the start of Cataclysm, I do too miss it. I was so taken by the whole UNIQUE atmosphere it created when you roamed the foggy streets.

    It gave me a ‘dark Victorian’ feel.

    Good post, new subscriber,

    – Jamin


  6. on August 10, 2011 at 10:23 pm Cynwise

    I love this idea. Gilneas has so much wonderful architecture in it, it’s really a pity that the only time I get to see it again is in a battleground. That’s just not right. 😦

    Great post!


  7. on September 6, 2011 at 5:46 pm Tesh

    I’ve just taken a Forsaken into Gilneas around level 15. Duskhaven is still gone, but it’s fun to explore the place anyway. There is only token resistance in the way, and the capital city itself is almost entirely abandoned. It’s a great way to get screenshots of the architecture.

    …I’ll go in there someday with my Flight Form Druid and get some better shots, too. It really is sad that they wind up throwing away all that great work after some quick phases in early Worgen play.


    • on September 7, 2011 at 8:54 am kamaliaetalia

      It really is sad that they wind up throwing away all that great work after some quick phases in early Worgen play.
      Same for the Goblin zones. They’re all lovely, but they play through so quickly, and then they’re gone. I feel like I don’t really appreciate a heavily phased zone until I’ve played through it a couple of times. The first time, I’m so caught up in the story and the quest flow that I don’t want to take time to stop and look around. The second or third time, I know how the quests and storyline go, so I’m more willing to take a time-out, as it were, from those things to just look around, explore, and appreciate the setting more. I’ve also been filling up my screenshots folder a lot more quickly because I’m never quite sure when something will phase and I won’t be able to come back to it!


  8. on October 27, 2011 at 7:29 am Winging It « Tish Tosh Tesh

    […] I ran into this excellent “Gilneas Time Capsule” article a while back, and I wanted to get some shots of the place with a character who can fly. […]



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